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January 27, 2025

How we go from record Feeder Cattle prices…

To an outright Collapse

 

One - Anyone who buys a load (50,000 lbs) of 800 pound steers to put them in a feedlot for about 6 months is looking to add about 700 pounds to them. They PAY for the steers and PAY to have them fed, with the intention of selling them as 1500 pound, ready-for-slaughter Live Cattle…at a price that nets them a profit after deducting what they spent for those steers and all the expenses feeding and caring for them.

 

Two – Buying Feeders is a business, but it is also a BET that will generate a profit…in that when you buy those steers, you are betting that Cattle prices, which are notoriously volatile, will STAY up enough for six months to make money…

 

Three – These are real numbers, based on Friday’s markets as to how the process actually works between buying the Feeders…and selling them about 6 months later.

 

Buy I “load” 800 lb. Steers (about 60)

$2.78 cents per lb.

Pay $2224 each x 60 Steers = $133,440

Cost to gain 700 lbs. (feed, medical, space)

$1.00 per 100 lbs.

Spend $700 each x 60 Steers = $42,000

Six months later – Sell Load - August 2025

 

Total spent by sale date = $175, 440

Aug 2025 Live Cattle Future close Friday

(current expected sale price in August)

$1.94 + .02 = $1.96 per lb.

(est. basis difference added)

60 steers x 1550 lbs. = 90,000 lbs.

90,000 lbs. sold x $1.96 = $176,400

 

Again, these ARE real numbers…meaning that anyone who was buying Feeders Friday, was basically spending a lot of money with the idea that if August “Fat Cattle” prices stay at $1.94 a pound, they would profit about $960 on a $175,440 investment…which seems like a big risk for a very small potential gain.

 

So, WHY would they??? Two major “reasons.” One, because today’s cash market is a good 10 cents higher than August futures…into new all-time highs, somewhere around the $2.07 - $2.10 level…which, believe me, inspires the hope from today’s feeder buyers that they will at least get that much in August…And two, and this is the biggest reason, BECAUSE EVERY BIT OF NEWS, ANALYSIS AND “LOGIC” THEY HEAR, READ AND SEE REGARDING FUTURE CATTLE PRICES IS NOTHING BUT BULLISH…STILL POUNDING AWAY ON THE SUPPOSEDLY BULLET PROOF IDEA THAT THE CATTLE HERD IS THE “SMALLEST IN 70 YEARS,” AND THEREFORE, CATTLE “JUST CAN’T GO DOWN FROM HERE.”

 

BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CASH LIVE CATTLE (SLAUGHTER WEIGHT READY) DON’T GO HIGHER…AND GOD FORBID, EVEN BEGIN TO SLIP A LITTLE FROM HERE?

 

Here is that August contract, which made new all-time highs on Friday…and how the numbers work if futures DON’T keep going higher…

And do KNOW that it can…and I believe, probably WILL…get a lot worse than just down 10-12 cents in Live Cattle…A LOT worse.

 

The point is, anybody buying the real Feeders up here has to be doing so almost blindly…totally caught up in the “THE BULL STORY” and maybe in a FOMO sort of way…And when you get down to the real numbers and that they HAVE to see prices keep climbing to just avoid LOSING money, what you really have is a ton of people “betting on the come.” And in futures, and their underlying markets, THAT can be  is disastrous.

 

But what I’m really getting at is that if/as Live Cattle prices start sliding AT ALL from here, you ARE going to have a world of FORMER Feeder Buyers beginning to lose money…and I promise you, at least some major percentage of those people, already losing AND having no idea of how bad it could get…WILL NOT BE THERE FOR WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THEIR NEXT NORMAL CYCLE OF BUYING. In other words, going forward, buyers would be blinking, hesitating, backing off…however you want to put it. And at these levels? When the buying wanes? Or practically disappears?

 

THAT’S WHEN FEEDERS DO REALLY AND TRULY GO STRAIGHT DOWN…EXACTLY LIKE THOSE 50 YEAR FEEDER CATTLE TOPS I’VE REPEATEDLY SHOWN YOU.

 

 

As classic as it gets?

 

After Friday’s close, the USDA released a much anticipated Monthly Cattle on Feed Report, the data of which was widely regarded as “more bullish than expected,” thus spurring calls for futures to be as much as $4.00 higher today…But they did NOT…Feeders made new highs, but closed lower, creating a potential Key Reversal…and August Live Cattle traded about 2.3 cents higher but closed up only .75.

 

And you can call me nuts…But this could be as classic as it gets…It might seem strange, but I will swear to you that, more often than not, bull markets do NOT turn around based on some surprisingly bearish report…Quite the contrary…They frequently turn on around on news, events, or reports that provide “evidence” suggesting, “Hey everybody! There just ain’t any left!” In the interest of brevity, I’ll just say it’s based on the fact that markets DO reach the point where EVERYBODY who could/would be long already is…AND I CAN ONLY VIEW TODAY’S REVERSAL AND LOWER CLOSE AS INDICATING THAT IS WHERE WE ARE…

 

More so than ever, I see this market as a massive, massive SHORT…a once a decade sort of trade…And do not think that just because I have been wrong, I still will be. I urge you to contact me and put something on here.

 

The next Nvidia? The next bullet proof bull market that isn’t?

 

And DO keep in mind all those charts I’ve been showing you of how Feeders DO make “V” reversals…that is they turn, literally from one day to the next and just GO.

 

LOTS of ways to go about this…Here is one…

 

Call me if you want to know more…

 

Thanks,

Bill

 

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866-578-1001

 

 

All option prices in this newsletter include all fees and commissions. All charts, unless otherwise noted, are by Aspen Graphics and CRB.

 

FUTURES TRADING IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. THE RISK OF LOSS IN TRADING CAN BE SUBSTANTIAL. THEREFORE, CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER SUCH TRADING IS SUITABLE FOR YOU IN LIGHT OF YOUR FINANCIAL CONDITION. PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF FUTURE RESULTS. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE YOUR TRADING EXPERIENCE WILL BE SIMILAR TO PAST PERFORMANCE.

 

The author of this piece currently trades for his own account and has a financial interest in the following derivative products mentioned within: Feeder Cattle